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Get real! Creamy? - 2008/07/29 19:49 I can’t believe that in all my searches for cigar related topics, I missed this site.
I’ve been reading that froo-froo stuff for way too long and am wondering just what the hell these guys are smoking? Realizing, of course, the taste of a cigar is extremely subjective.

Creamy? Chocolaty? Mocha? Cappuccino? Hints of raspberry? And cinnamon? Good lord people It’s TOBACO! It’s smoke! As the late Sam Kinesen (http://rebirthofreason.com/Spirit/Movies/56.shtml) would have said “SMOKEY! SMOKEY!” Have ya seen on the news where the folks in California are lining up on the leeward sides of forest fires to sniff the bouquets? No! Cause it’s leaves, twigs and wood burnin! Smoke! It is an irritant! The ph level of cigars is not conducive to inhale the stuff; making the flavors intense on the palette with enhanced flavors for the retro-hale gifted individuals. It’s a CIGAR! For cryin out loud! Smoke! Leaves burnin! Get it?

Case in point. I have a friend over to the house almost every Thursday for a smoke and pupus (Hawaiian for hors d’euvres). Anyway, this guy hates chocolate, in fact is allergic to the stuff (poor guy) shoots his blood pressure through the roof! It may be the Theo bromine in the chocolate but that is another story on why you shouldn’t give chocolate to your dog. Any way his pallet has become quite sensitive to chocolate over the years of having bad reactions, in fact he took one bite of an award winning chili to ask if there was chocolate in it, which there was. I believe someone that can detect chocolate in a spoonful of chili has a pretty keen sense for the taste of chocolate. So here is the point! He only likes one of the many cigars that I have in my humidors, so much so that he always asks for it. This particular cigar is reviewed as having a deep chocolate appearance and taste. Creamy and chocolaty.

Now either this friend of mine can’t taste it (subjective) or it doesn’t taste like chocolate. At least not to him, which leads me to say “fooey!” Chocolate! SMOKEY! SMOKEY!

I’ve been smoking off and on for 20+ years, when overseas nothing but Cubans, and I have never, repeat NEVER sucked anything creamy or fruity or chocolaty out of a cigar! From either end by the way! It’s a CIGAR! Smooth? Ok! Raspy, hot, harsh, flavorful, pepper, wood, leather, sure. Fruity? Smooth? Never! It’s not a condiment, spice, or fruit. It doesn’t go well with fruit bowls, fried chicken, ice-cream or steak! It’s bold, it commands your full attention! SMOKEY! SMOKEY!Smoking is for men! Manly men doin manly things! Like chuckin dead animal carcass on the grill. Smokin is for women who want to enjoy a great smoke, libation and conversation and a chance for both to experience a past-time reminiscent of days gone by; something, which by the way, started out as all-American!

I don’t mind hearin about the bouquet garni you used for your soup stock, or oven roast, hell I love to cook too! And if you visit the Rose Garden at the White House and would like to post something about the fresh spring bouquet of roses that filled the air, that’s fine. But please don’t try and pass off that that Camacho Corojo Maduro was creamy and had hints of roasted coffee accompanied by a splash of heavy cream on the finish. Or that a Padron is fluffy and mild cherry cream pie; puffy, light and airy with hints of apples, with a lingering biscuit and gravy finish! I don’t buy it! Get real! Some reviews are full of crap! Lemmings! Lemmings running right off the cliff, one right after another in a vain attempt to fit in with a niche of society. SMOKEY! SMOKEY! Glad I got that off my chest, HHHmmmm, El Rey del Mundo oscuro anyone?

Let me know what ya think, let's liven this place up a bit!
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Re:Get real! Creamy? - 2008/07/30 15:52 Wow Joe! Why don't you tell us how you *really* feel! I have to agree with you for the most part; all those insane comparisons are a bit over the top... Like those who come up with that junk are sort of implying that they have some super-duper well developed sense of cigar nuance... I dont buy it.

However! I have had a few stogues that I *would* describe the smoke as being creamy. Not like milky buttery creamy, but more in the sense thick and smooth and non-bitter creamy.

Anyway, great post -- thanks for the rant!

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Re:Get real! Creamy? - 2008/08/02 01:18 Hay Ash,
Thanks for the reply! I'll try and keep my ranting to a minimum. Relating cream as a texture makes much more sense than a dairy product. It seems difficult to relate cigar smoke to most food. Although wine tasting techniques may be borrowed in cigar tasting (eg. employing the olfactory nerves during retro hale) that would greatly enhance the entire experience. It just seems as though cigar smoke is better related to woods, leather, spices, etc than to creamy or fruity foods. It may all depend on the electrochemical imprint the brain used to store the memory of a particular smell, which adds to the subjectivity of taste.
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